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PacoTheTrumpeter Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:18 am Post subject: Clifford Brown - Saint-Jacome? |
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Hi -
I'm wondering if someone can help me with this. I have been under the impression for a long time that in addition to working from the Arban method, Clifford Brown had studied from the Saint-Jacome method, but I can't for the life of me remember where I got that idea. Does anyone have any idea of A) whether this is true or not and B) if there is a reputable source that makes this claim?
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PacoTheTrumpeter Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:29 am Post subject: |
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I hadn't heard that. I know that Clifford supposedly studied from some method (can't remember the name) that was a systematic approach to Arban.
Freddie supposedly worked more out of St.-Jacome as a youth than Arban, as that was the preferred method of his teacher, Max Woodbury. _________________ Bach trumpet artist-clinician
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Although he post dates Clifford, wasn't St. Jacome also preferred by Claude Gordon? _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for the replies. I think the Prescott System was what Clifford Brown's high school band director used as an organized approach to working through the entire Arban method.
I'm worried that I might have just misread something years ago and had this Saint-Jacome connection in my mind ever since. The Saint-Jacome's inclusion of the upper register above high C and varied multiple articulation drills, as well as a section on how to create variations on a theme seem so well suited to developing some of Clifford's skill areas that I was hoping someone would confirm that he had, indeed, worked out of the book. |
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bach_again Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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PH wrote: | I hadn't heard that. I know that Clifford supposedly studied from some method (can't remember the name) that was a systematic approach to Arban.
Freddie supposedly worked more out of St.-Jacome as a youth than Arban, as that was the preferred method of his teacher, Max Woodbury. |
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Is it the Prescott system that he used? |
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