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jharpemusic New Member
Joined: 25 Jan 2022 Posts: 2 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:39 pm Post subject: Mouthpiece safari |
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Hello all, I'm new to the forum. I'm a trumpet player in Tampa and, in the last couple of years, I've discovered that really small mouthpieces work best for me. Like, 10.5 rim size small.
Like many, I fell victim to the mantra of bigger mouthpieces being for advanced players and smaller pieces being for weak players/beginners.
So, I'm currently searching for a piece that will help with more commercial stuff on my Bach 43. I've been eyeing the Bach commercial series. Currently I'm on a 10 3/4 CW that a friend gave me. It responds great but sometimes the tone sounds a bit bland. Especially in the middle register. It'd be nice if it were just a bit wider in the rim. I'm currently also playing a Yamaha 7b4 on my Carolbrass horn. So far it feels good, especially for jazz solo stuff.
Thoughts? Opinions? Much appreciated everyone. _________________ J. Harpe |
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 12699 Location: Gardena, Ca
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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You might get more responses if you check out the different forums’ focus prior to creating a post.
IMO, this post would do better in the mouthpieces forum. If you agree you might send a PM to Moderators asking them to move it. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9144 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Reeves 42 D. Excellent and in your mouthpiece size range. If yu're not familiar with Reeves, check out: https://bobreeves.com/mouthpieces/ _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"Well, even if I could play like Wynton, I wouldn't play like Wynton." Chet Baker
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DWJ1721 New Member
Joined: 30 Jun 2022 Posts: 1
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Looking for mouthpiece ideas. Any here? |
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Ronnman Veteran Member
Joined: 09 Aug 2019 Posts: 419 Location: SE Louisiana
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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If you have not found the online Mouthpiece Comparator, you may try playing around with the site, link: https://trumpet.cloud/mpc/index.html?mpc1id=A006900&mpc2id=B042400
I believe you may like something like a Parduba 5-1/2 or 6. Both have a more comfortable rim than the Bach 10-3/4CW.
Regards,
Ron _________________ Martin Committee #2 1954
Leblanc “Al Hirt” Model 1966
Olds Custom Crafted Ultra Sonic 1974
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kurth83 Regular Member
Joined: 21 Oct 2021 Posts: 73
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Safari's can be expensive.
Larger isn't better, just a different tool. Depends on what you are and what you are trying to do, there is no one size for all.
That said, I favor larger rims for classical work, and smaller rims for other stuff.
When I did it, the rim shape was my first thing to identify, once I had a rim shape (somewhat more rounded in my case, words like comfortable are meaningless - a wider flatter rim vs a thinner more rounded one are the usual variations). Rim profile was relatively easy, could be tested with inexpensive stock pieces. Then the rim diameter was the next thing (I tried everything from a 7 to a 1). Then I experimented with cup depth (and cup shape V vs bowl cups mostly, and depth of the bowls A,B,C,D), throat size (tried 20-26 with a drill), and eventually backbores (although I never really figured out the backbore thing, just slightly more open worked better for me).
I ended up with almost $2k of std and custom mouthpieces from Schilke and Curry, eventually got the piece I was looking for, and learned a whole lot along the way.
I wish I had done this years ago too. I am a better all around player on a mouthpiece that works well for me.
It sounds like you are pretty close however already, maybe try some different rim shapes and cups in the sizes near a 10 and see if anything gets better or worse. |
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Jaw04 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 31 Dec 2015 Posts: 911 Location: Bay Area, California
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Whatever mouthpiece safari you go on, it needs to be out in the wild and not just at home. You need to be playing the pieces in rehearsals, or gigs, whatever your musical life consists of. Playing a mouthpiece by yourself in your house is a lot different than taking it into a 4 hour gig, or say, a week of band rehearsals. |
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brassmoose Regular Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2022 Posts: 79 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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There's a sage piece of advice out there that goes: "play on the smallest mouthpiece (rim & cup) that you functionally can". I wish I had heeded this advice $2,000 ago. And another piece of advice: "only make small changes and address a single problem". So true.
And what I've learned most of all, over the past 9 months and aforementioned dollars, is that a mouthpiece ain't worth squat until you've gigged on it. I've found lots of mouthpieces that felt and/or sounded great, but were utterly useless 15 minutes into a 45 minute gig or a 3 hour rehearsal.
Then I took a touch up few lessons from a great player & even some of those mouthpieces were no longer any good.
Alas, after time & money, I'm back to my original size, but only a slightly smaller rim size & a slightly shallower cup & slightly tighter backbore. To fix my 2 issues, which were more vastly solved by several lessons. Sigh. |
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