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da_roadrunner Veteran Member
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 355 Location: University of North Dakota
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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I've started assisting my band director with the younger kids band (9th and 10th graders) and there are a couple of trumpet players who have a lot of potential, except their tone is fuzzy. I'm going to have a chance to work with them, so I was wondering how you get rid of a fuzzy, airy tone? |
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_Don Herman 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
Joined: 11 Nov 2001 Posts: 3344 Location: Monument, CO, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Put the horn in the case?
OK, try having them hum, then play like they hum. In some cases, they might not realize they are "fuzzy" -- have them play into the stand, or a wall, or something, so they can hear. Better yet, record them, and you, so they have a sound to follow. Try having them play as soft as they can (with some control), and work on getting a "pure" tone out the bell. Make sure they take a nice big breath before playing -- if the air ain't there, they may be pressing and spreading the lips to get sound out. All these things should help get their lips closer in the mpc, and/or improve their air support, which should cure the fuzziness.
Chances are, listening to good sound (yours, recordings, etc.) and trying to emulate it will help them fix the problem on their own.
All I can come up with off the top of my (obviously balding) head. Fuzzy tone has been a not-too-infrequent topic on TH, so you might try searching for some other threads on this subject.
HTH - Don _________________ Don Herman/Monument, CO
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Still Trying Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jul 2002 Posts: 902 Location: Keller, TX
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Teach them some very simple lip slurs, and then teach them to repeat the lip slurs with just the mouthpiece and then with a free buzz. I recommend covering the range from second line G down to G below the staff with the lip slur exercises. It can be as simple as half note slurs from G down to C and back to G a couple of times. And then repeat this pattern with each valve combination starting with G and going down through F#, F, E, etc. Teach them to listen to the mouthpiece and free buzz tones and correct it until only a pure sound comes out-no air. By playing through the exercises repetitively with horn, mouthpiece, and only with the lips, they will 1) strengthen the lip muscles, 2) learn to center the pitch with the buzz, 3) develop a more efficient embouchure, and 4) their tone will be greatly improved. Of course don't just play through this routine once. They have to work on each slur over and over until they get a clear, in-tune tone with both lips and mouthpiece. Then the tone will come on the horn.
I also recommend that simple exercises be played with the lips, the mouthpiece, and the free buzz, and that interval studies be played the same way. Don't devote hours to these exercises. Fifteen to twenty minutes a day or every other day should do wonders at shoring up an airy tone. And speed isn't important in the exercises. Accuracy is important.
Why don't you try this and see, if it will help?
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[ This Message was edited by: Still Trying on 2004-04-01 07:17 ] |
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JackD Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Posts: 1436 Location: London, England.
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 5:05 am Post subject: |
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I find lead-pipe buzzing also helps iron this out. |
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mike ansberry Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 1608 Location: Clarksville, Tn
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 7:01 am Post subject: |
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L-O-N-G T-O-N-E-S |
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_bugleboy Carmine Caruso Forum Moderator
Joined: 11 Nov 2001 Posts: 2865
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Fuzzy tone is a lip thing.
Some things to help fix it,
- 3-5 minutes low register, pp long tones several times a day.
- 3-5 minutes of leadpipe long tones first thing of the day.
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crzytptman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 10124 Location: Escondido California
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Tone production mechanics is the first thing a good teacher would address with a student. Do these kids have private teachers? Maybe your band director should get a local teacher to come in as trumpet coach. This fundamental is too critical to have someone fishing for advice off the internet. If one of these kids were to pose this question here, he/she would probably be advised to get a private teacher.
Nate _________________ Crazy Nate - Fine Yet Mellow Fellow
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Tal Katz Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 781 Location: Israel
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Long Tones and lots of Bendings |
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