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No, I think Blee played principal for about 19 years, then he moved down to second for a few years, then down to fourth. Great man, great excerpt coach - I learned most of what I know about orchestral playing from him. I think you will find that Mark Ridenaur has a similar opinion...
I believe Marie was acting principal for a year between Blee and Collins.
Daval also played third/associate in Boston (principal pops) for a while, and third in Cincinnati for a few years between Boston and Montreal
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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Wilmer,
I was at the library this weekend returning some books with my little boys. I decided to see if there were any good books with historical symphony information, and I checked out a copy of Toscanini, the NBC Years. I know that you had mentioned Murray Karpilovsky should be added to the NBC list, but I couldn’t find a reference to him anywhere. I’m wondering if he was with NBC after Toscanini left when the ensemble became the Symphony of the Air. Or possibly he was on staff at NBC after Toscanani?
I think that this list is as complete as it can be based on my present resources (still need some start and end dates for a handful of players). Because of this, I’m going to move this one to its final folder at this point. As this is a work in progress, maybe Symphony of the Air should be added!
NBC Symphony Orchestra
Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
1942-1954_________Harry Glantz (1st Trumpet)
194?-1954_________Frank Falcone (2nd Trumept)
1946-1954_________Raymond Crisara (Associate 1st / 3rd)
194?-194?_________David Glickstein
1937-1940_________Bernard Baker (1st Trumpet)
1937-194?_________Sol Klass
1937-194?_________Humbert Pennino
1937-194?_________Frank Venezia
The dates and positions that I gathered for these players was from the March 2000 ITG Journal article entitled “Ray Crisara: Teaching by Example” by Keith Winking, page 36. This can be found on line at: http://www.trumpetguild.org/pdf/2000journal/0003wink.pdf and has some really great pictures!
Benny Baker reference: http://www.trumpetguild.org/pdf/2000journal/0010cald2.pdf, Page 44
David Glickstein reference: http://www.trumpetguild.org/journal/d94/9412Thor.pdf
Here are the links to the web site that I found:
List of NBC Symphony Players: http://www.classicalmusiccd.com/znbc/nbcplayers.html
Photo of NBC Symphony: http://www.classicalmusiccd.com/znbc/photosnbc.html _________________ Derek Reaban
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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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This is a snapshot of the information to date in this folder for me to keep track of the different phases of completion for each of the orchestras shown on this list. Basically this lets me know where the most complete information for each orchestra can be found (page number) so I don’t have to scroll through every page looking for information.
To date 11 orchestra rosters have been completed and moved to their final folders. 1 orchestra has not been started yet, and the balance is in various stages of completion.
ASIA:
Page 11_________Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra
CANADA:
Page 12_________Toronto Symphony Orchestra
Complete (Final)__Orchestre Symphonique de Montreal (12)
Page 11_________The National Arts Centre Orchestra
EUROPE:
Page 9__________Berliner Philharmoniker
Page 8__________Vienna Philharmonic
Page 8__________Israel Philharmonic Orchestra
Page 6__________Orchestre de la Suisse Romande
UNITED STATES:
Page 6__________Atlanta Symphony Orchestra
Page 9__________Baltimore Symphony Orchestra
Complete (Final)__Boston Symphony Orchestra (2)
Complete (Final)__Buffalo Philharmonic Orchestra (7)
Complete (Final)__Chicago Symphony Orchestra (2)
Page 11_________Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra
Complete (Final)__The Cleveland Orchestra (2)
Page 9__________Colorado Symphony Orchestra
Page 4__________Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Complete (Final)__Detroit Symphony Orchestra (2)
Page 11_________Houston Symphony
Page 6__________Indianapolis Symphony Orchestra
Page 11_________Kansas City Symphony
Complete (Final)__Los Angeles Philharmonic (12)
Complete (Final)__Metropolitan Opera Orchestra (11)
Complete (Final)__Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra (8)
Page 8__________Minnesota Orchestra
Complete (Final)__NBC Symphony Orchestra (7)
Page 8__________National Symphony
Page 8__________New Orleans Symphony
Complete (Final)__New York Philharmonic (10)
Complete (Final)__The Philadelphia Orchestra (2)
Page 11_________The Phoenix Symphony
Complete (Final)__Pittsburgh Symphony (12)
Page 8__________Rochester Philharmonic Orchestra
Page 9__________Saint Louis Symphony
Page 11_________San Diego Symphony
Complete (Final)__San Francisco Symphony (2)
Page 12_________Santa Fe Opera Orchestra
Page 10_________Seattle Symphony
Page 8__________Utah Symphony
UNITED KINGDOM:
Complete (Final)__British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) Symphony Orchestra (2)
Page 12_________English Chamber Orchestra
Page 6__________The Halle Orchestra
Page 6__________London Philharmonic Orchestra
Page 6__________London Symphony Orchestra
Page 4__________Philharmonia Orchestra
Not Yet Started___The Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra
Page 6__________Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
Page 6__________The Orchestra of the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden
Page 10_________Royal Scottish National Orchestra
If you can help fill in any other missing information for these groups, please let me know.
Thanks,
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Andrew Tomlinson found some good information for our Saint Louis list. Does anyone know anything about Joseph Gustat. From the brief stories that I have read, he sounds like he was a very influential player / teacher!
Saint Louis Symphony Orchestra
Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
1973-Current_______Susan Slaughter
19??-1973_________???
1944-1946_________Seymour Rosenfeld
19??-1944_________Joseph Gustat
1920-19??_________???
1919-1920_________David Glickstein
1879-1919_________???
Web site: http://www.saintlouissymphony.org/0203musc/orchmem.htm
Current roster for the 2003-2004 Season:
Susan Slaughter – Principal Trumpet
Thomas Drake - Assistant Principal
Joshua MacCluer
Gary Smith
References:
Seymour Rosenfeld Reference: From Page 5 of the May 1989 ITG Journal in the article by Kevin Eisensmith entitled “An Interview with Seymour Rosenfeld on the Occasion of His Retirement from the Philadelphia Orchestra”
David Glickstein reference: http://www.trumpetguild.org/journal/d94/9412Thor.pdf
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On 2004-04-26 14:45, Derek Reaban wrote:
Wilmer,
I was at the library this weekend returning some books with my little boys. I decided to see if there were any good books with historical symphony information, and I checked out a copy of Toscanini, the NBC Years. I know that you had mentioned Murray Karpilovsky should be added to the NBC list, but I couldn’t find a reference to him anywhere. I’m wondering if he was with NBC after Toscanini left when the ensemble became the Symphony of the Air. Or possibly he was on staff at NBC after Toscanani?
I think that this list is as complete as it can be based on my present resources (still need some start and end dates for a handful of players). Because of this, I’m going to move this one to its final folder at this point. As this is a work in progress, maybe Symphony of the Air should be added!
NBC Symphony Orchestra
Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
1942-1954_________Harry Glantz (1st Trumpet)
194?-1954_________Frank Falcone (2nd Trumept)
1946-1954_________Raymond Crisara (Associate 1st / 3rd)
194?-194?_________David Glickstein
1937-1940_________Bernard Baker (1st Trumpet)
1937-194?_________Sol Klass
1937-194?_________Humbert Pennino
1937-194?_________Frank Venezia
The dates and positions that I gathered for these players was from the March 2000 ITG Journal article entitled “Ray Crisara: Teaching by Example” by Keith Winking, page 36. This can be found on line at: http://www.trumpetguild.org/pdf/2000journal/0003wink.pdf and has some really great pictures!
Benny Baker reference: http://www.trumpetguild.org/pdf/2000journal/0010cald2.pdf, Page 44
David Glickstein reference: http://www.trumpetguild.org/journal/d94/9412Thor.pdf
Here are the links to the web site that I found:
List of NBC Symphony Players: http://www.classicalmusiccd.com/znbc/nbcplayers.html
Photo of NBC Symphony: http://www.classicalmusiccd.com/znbc/photosnbc.html
| My NBC source hasn't gotten back to me.
I will be in contact later this afternoon.
Wilmer _________________ "Be sure Brain is engaged before putting Mouthpiece in gear"
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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Wilmer,
Thanks again! Whenever you find out more information let me know and I will update the list. If dates are hard to come by, I think we have done a good job showing the main players in the section. It will be interesting to find out when Murray Karpilovsky was with the ensemble though!
Thanks, _________________ Derek Reaban
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Captain Canuck,
I ran across the reference to Fred Mills playing with the National Arts Centre Orchestra in an ITG Journal article, so I thought I would put this list in our format with the information that you provided earlier. The 1972 end date for Fred Mills is confirmed in the article. The Karen Donnelly information is found in her bio at the National Arts Centre Orchestra web site.
National Arts Centre Orchestra
Principal Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
1999-Current_______Karen Donnelly
1995-1999_________Karen Donnelly (Acting Principal)
1975-1995_________Douglas Payson Sturdevant
1972-1975_________???
1969-1972_________Fred Mills
Web Site: http://www.nac-cna.ca/en/naco/allaboutthenacorchestra/musicianbiography/brass.html
Current roster for the 2003-2004 Season:
Karen Donnelly – Principal Trumpet
Eric Rupp
Reference:
Douglas Payson Sturdevant reference: http://www.rotarymusicfestival.org/clinicians/sturdevant.html
Fred Mills reference: http://www.trumpetguild.org/2000conference/bio/mills.htm and June 2001 ITG Journal article by Ezra Adams entitled “Life After the Canadian Brass: An Interview with Fred Mills and Ronald Romm”, Page 9. _________________ Derek Reaban
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 12:51 am Post subject: |
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Incorrect RPO Information.
Currently there is no Principal with the RPO, and Brian Thompson (CO-Principal)is covering the majority whilst other players are trialing for this position. David Carstairs is the Sub Principal. They do however all swap around so all current players play first a lot also. But officially the Principal postion is trialing process. |
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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 9:39 am Post subject: |
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I received the following information from Richard Wandel at the New York Philharmonic Archives concerning our list for the timeframe from 1973 to 1988. It’s good to have this information confirmed. I will follow-up with him and see if he has information to clarify personnel and dates for principal trumpet prior to 1928 with the two orchestras that merged to form the NY Philharmonic.
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From the 1973-74 season through the 1976-77 season John ware and Gerard Schwarz were co-principals. In 1977-78 it was John Ware and Louis Ranger as acting co-principal. 1978-79 began John Ware and Phil Smith as co-principals. In 1988-89 John Ware left mid season leaving Phil
Smith alone as Principal.
What do you want to know about the merger in 1928?
Richard Wandel
Associate Archivist
New York Philharmonic Archives
10 Lincoln Center Plaza
New York, NY 10023
(212) 875-5932
Fax: (212) 875-5933
wandelr@nyphil.org
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New York Philharmonic
Principal Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
1988-Current_______Phil Smith
1978-1988_________Phil Smith (Co-Principal)
1973-1988_________John Ware (Co-Principal)
1977-1978_________Louis Ranger (Acting Co-Principal)
1973-1977_________Gerard Schwarz (Co-Principal)
1942-1973_________William Vacchiano
1923-1942_________Harry Glantz (Became NYP in 1928)
1921-1923_________Gustav F. Heim
1911-1923_________Benjamin Klatzkin
1909-1911_________Christian H. Rodenkirchen
1908-1909_________???
1907-1908_________Jacob (Jake) Borodkin
1905-1907_________Christian H. Rodenkirchen
1899-1905_________???
1898-1898_________Edward N. Lafricain
1865-1899_________Friderick Dietz, Sr.
Web Site: http://www.newyorkphilharmonic.org/meet/orchestra/index.cfm?page=section§ionNum=21
Current roster for the 2003-2004 Season:
Phil Smith – Principal Trumpet
Robert Sullivan – Associate Principal
Thomas V. Smith
Vincent Penzarella
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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 10:02 am Post subject: |
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6pk,
Thanks for the information on the RPO. I will update our list shortly and show Brian Thomson as the Co-Principal. Their web site is not very clear! Also you show the spelling of his last name as "Thompson" but the web site shows "Thomson". Do you know which is correct?
Thanks again! _________________ Derek Reaban
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Current roster for the 2003-2004 Season:
Phil Smith – Principal Trumpet
Robert Sullivan – Associate Principal
Thomas V. Smith
Vincent Penzarella
Should read for 2003-2004
Phil Smith - Principal Trumpet
Robert Sullivan - Associate Principal (on leave)
Thomas V. Smith - Acting Associate Principal
Vincent Penzarella |
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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I think the website is correct with that,,Thomson |
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 8:01 am Post subject: |
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ta,ta,ka,
Thanks for the input. I have shown Robert Sulivan as (On leave - to The Cleveland Orchestra). Do you know if there was anyone filling in for him, or were they just playing with three for the seaon?
New York Philharmonic
Principal Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
1988-Current_______Phil Smith
1978-1988_________Phil Smith (Co-Principal)
1973-1988_________John Ware (Co-Principal)
1977-1978_________Louis Ranger (Acting Co-Principal)
1973-1977_________Gerard Schwarz (Co-Principal)
1942-1973_________William Vacchiano
1923-1942_________Harry Glantz (Became NYP in 1928)
1921-1923_________Gustav F. Heim
1911-1923_________Benjamin Klatzkin
1909-1911_________Christian H. Rodenkirchen
1908-1909_________???
1907-1908_________Jacob (Jake) Borodkin
1905-1907_________Christian H. Rodenkirchen
1899-1905_________???
1898-1898_________Edward N. Lafricain
1865-1899_________Friderick Dietz, Sr.
Web Site: http://www.newyorkphilharmonic.org/meet/orchestra/index.cfm?page=section§ionNum=21
Current roster for the 2003-2004 Season:
Phil Smith – Principal Trumpet
Robert Sullivan – Associate Principal (On leave - to The Cleveland Orchestra)
Thomas V. Smith
Vincent Penzarella _________________ Derek Reaban
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 11:52 am Post subject: |
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I ran into this complete list on the Internet, so I'm including it with our lists. Unless anyone sees any errors (I found one with the David Kuehn dates cross checking with an ITG Journal article), I will leave this in the "working" folder for a week for comments, and then move it to its final folder.
Buffalo Philharmonic Orchestra
Principal Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
1998-Current_______Alex Jokipii
1997-1998_________Jeff Biancalana
1996-1997_________Gerald Soffer
1994-1996_________David Kuehn
1992-1994_________Gerald Soffer
1969-1992_________David Kuehn
1967-1969_________Richard Smith
1963-1967_________Richard Jones
1952-1963_________Alex Wilson
1950-1952_________James Hustis
1947-1950_________Lester Remsen
1946-1947_________John Ware
1943-1946_________Louis Impellitier
1941-1943_________Eugene Bishop
1935-1941_________Louis Impellitier
Web Site: http://www.bpo.org/musicians/
Current roster for the 2003-2004 Season:
Alex Jokipii – Principal Trumpet
Gerald Soffer
Philip Christner
Reference:
Buffalo Philharmonic Musicians at the University of Buffalo web site: http://www.music.buffalo.edu/bpo/PLAYERS.HTM
David Kuehn Reference: http://www.trumpetguild.org/pdf/9802sch2.pdf
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On 2004-05-04 11:01, Derek Reaban wrote:
ta,ta,ka,
Thanks for the input. I have shown Robert Sulivan as (On leave - to The Cleveland Orchestra). Do you know if there was anyone filling in for him, or were they just playing with three for the seaon?
New York Philharmonic
Principal Trumpet Players
Start-End________Name
1988-Current_______Phil Smith
1978-1988_________Phil Smith (Co-Principal)
1973-1988_________John Ware (Co-Principal)
1977-1978_________Louis Ranger (Acting Co-Principal)
1973-1977_________Gerard Schwarz (Co-Principal)
1942-1973_________William Vacchiano
1923-1942_________Harry Glantz (Became NYP in 1928)
1921-1923_________Gustav F. Heim
1911-1923_________Benjamin Klatzkin
1909-1911_________Christian H. Rodenkirchen
1908-1909_________???
1907-1908_________Jacob (Jake) Borodkin
1905-1907_________Christian H. Rodenkirchen
1899-1905_________???
1898-1898_________Edward N. Lafricain
1865-1899_________Friderick Dietz, Sr.
Web Site: http://www.newyorkphilharmonic.org/meet/orchestra/index.cfm?page=section§ionNum=21
Current roster for the 2003-2004 Season:
Phil Smith – Principal Trumpet
Robert Sullivan – Associate Principal (On leave - to The Cleveland Orchestra)
Thomas V. Smith
Vincent Penzarella
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The NYP has been playing with three this season and hiring substitutes as needed.
The NYP web site incorrectly reads:
Philip Smith - Principal
Robert Sullivan - Associate Principal
Thomas V. Smith
Vincent Penzarella
This does not make sense as Thomas Smith (4th trumpet) is listed above Vincent Penzarella (second trumpet).
The NYP programs correctly list it:
Philip Smith - Principal
Robert Sullivan - Associate Principal (on leave)
Thomas V. Smith - Acting Associate Principal
Vincent Penzarella
As has been discussed at TH, the NYP is presently holding auditions for the Associate Principal position. |
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