I can play a triple C on my good days but never would want to. I do feel like playing musically up double C's sometimes. I also wish sometimes I didn't have the range and didn't "abuse" it as much as I do.
I've switched to bigger equipment (Wedge 3B) but still can play above DHC.
Chet Baker survived without much range. So did Blue Mitchell, etc. Range is no longer my motive for practicing. Producing the most interesting, complex, beautiful, and shimmering sound is. I doubt I'll ever get it!
Cheers,
T
PS: And another thing: I had a Double C in 9th grade. Truth be told I have no idea how I got it (other than practicing 4-7 hours a day in HS). I have 7th graders playing g's and a's below DHC. For some reason I just convince them it's not hard. It isn't hard for me, why do they have to struggle? I fake them into thinking its easy. shhhhhh
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When I found my first dhc it scared the beejeebers out of me. Of course ... I was alone in a practice room. When explaining to a friend the next day, I couldn't find it. I started to explain to him it was like getting all of the wrinkles out of a ballon ... strange analogy I know. That said, I thought about it again, heard the note and played the note.
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject:
oliver king wrote:
The real question isn't how high can one play but how well does one play high.
Is this a Cheech and Chong quote? _________________ "Stomvi" PhrankenPhlugel w/ Blessing copper bell
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject:
swthiel wrote:
I consider the top of my usable range to be a high D (two ledger lines). .
Seems like you are playing a different intrument other tham a trumpet or cornet and I don't care if they are Bb or C or Eb instruments. Where I come from the second ledger line above the treble staff is a C not a D. With a Bach type 7C I was consistent and clear on the C as early as the 7th grade in public school. As to the Double C with my Parduba I hit it clear more than 95% of the time and on a very good day have hit a triple A in a finale, but I'll drop my percentage on this one to less than 5%. Still it would be a piece of cake with my Shilke piccolo trumpet and Parduba cornet mpc.--Ed Lee
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:07 pm Post subject:
spitvalve wrote:
There are nine lab bands at UNT, and you generally have to go down to about the 6th or 7th band to not hear a lead player with a consistent high A that will break glass--
We bought cheap stemmed wine glasses at the 5 and 10. Mr. Cameron proceeded to break one with a wavering Triple A using a French Besson trumpet (as made earlier than 1857). He then commented that if we were any good we could do it too. I accepted the challenge with one condition that I used his instrument. He pulled his mouthpiece and handed it to me and I stuck in a 5C and smacked it with the first note.
The end of this story is that I was invited to play his instrument again for my senior High School solo, as all the seniors presented. My music was the "Invincible Eagle" by J.P. Sousa. Presently, I play an English Besson and an older Conn. It was a Martin I regularly played in high school that was subsequently stolen.
If you can't do it ... don't knock it because others can. --- Ed Lee
I like the way he comes right in on the Double C without having to scoop or slide up to it. I seriously doubt that there are many guys who could do this level of that particular Reinhardt drill at all (tongued and slurred starting on Double C), much less anywhere near as well as Chris does it.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:19 am Post subject:
swthiel wrote:
Where I come from, the first D above the treble clef staff sits atop the second ledger line.
It's the same where I, and every participant on TH, comes from... which gets to my post above. _________________ "Stomvi" PhrankenPhlugel w/ Blessing copper bell
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:33 am Post subject:
Sheesh..... I had no problem understanding the OP when he referred to the D as being two ledger lines above the staff. Who cares if he didn't think it necessary to to specify that it rests on TOP of those ledger lines. I would hope we all understand that by now - if you don't, I think maybe you're in the wrong forum....
I also think that is totally pedantic and anal to take him to task because he assumed we would know what he meant.
ConnArtist wrote:
swthiel wrote:
Where I come from, the first D above the treble clef staff sits atop the second ledger line.
It's the same where I, and every participant on TH, comes from... which gets to my post above.
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When I am practicing regularly, I can up to around F above high C (the 2 ledger line C) with pretty good sound and control. Sometimes, I have days where getting above D is a struggle, however. I'm not 100% consistent with it, so I'm not going to say that I absolutely "own" it.
And since all I do is play for my own amusement and recreation here at home and no longer perform publicly, and considering my overall musical interests, that's plenty good enough for me.
I can play consistent G's above high C after a 3 hour rehearsal I do it every tuesday and thursday in my college jazz band at the end of wind machine(for some reason my director likes to end every rehearsal with that song). And thats after playing some pretty challenging (lead trumpet wise) charts. lots of nestico and gordon goodwin stuff. Not trying to sound cocky or anything but its what I like to do some people like practicing and playing classical stuff I like practicing lead trumpet stuff. And i know most of the people on this forum that cant play high G's could out play me any day when it comes to double tongueing and triple tongueing and extremely technical passages.
And from my observations of people who say that "cant" play high are just going about it the wrong way. Your not going to run a marathon in high heels so why would you try to play lead trumpet on a 1 1/2C? I know a lot of people that cant play high so they just give up and go to the stuff where they dont have to. If someone really wants to play lead trumpet they can learn they just need to find the right equipment practice the right stuff and try to find a teacher that specializes in lead trumpet playing. Once i started doing those things my lead chops improved immensely im not perfect and im not that great . These are just some of the things ive noticed and my opinions.
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:05 pm Post subject: Respect
Welcome to TH, Trumpcyms1993. Hopefully you will find that your contributions and opinions are consistently respected. This is a great place to nurture you trumpet passion.
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:19 pm Post subject:
i may be twelve but i can really play lead
when i do my face looks like
i can stay at a consistant g above high c on an average day an a on a good and an f on a bad
i may be twelve but i can really play lead
when i do my face looks like
i can stay at a consistant g above high c on an average day an a on a good and an f on a bad
Thats great! keep working on it. but playing high notes and lead trumpet doesnt have to look hard. try to make it feel effortless with good air usage and youll have even more fun playing lead. ever thought about marching drum corp? playing lead trumpet in a drum corp is fun you should look into it when your a little older! good luck with your playing. _________________ Yamaha ytr-8335RGM Xeno Bb
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pelirrojo173, tell me if this is a better/worse way to say what you were trying to.
Many people can/claim to be able to play above High C. I am one of those. However, like most, I may not be able to make music above High C. I can go to at least a solid G, but I may not be able to make music with it. It's a good note, but not great music.
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