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Crazy Finn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 8335 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:29 pm Post subject: Replacing Mute Corks (non-Harmon) |
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Hey everyone,
There are several straight or cup mutes in my bin that need attention before they're really usable due to worn or missing corks.
With Harmon mutes, decent sheet cork is available along the funky foam which was recommended on this forum.
However, I couldn't find any suggestions for the smaller non-sheet corks. I can always buy replacement corks from H&B or Jo-Ral (most of these are Alessi or H&B mutes) but I was wondering if there were other suggestions out there. _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
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trumpethead Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 444 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Someone suggested a while ago using bicycle tube as the 'cork'.
Since I've done this, I'd NEVER go back to using cork.
The mutes just stay in without any other help. |
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zaferis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Posts: 2331 Location: Beavercreek, OH
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think you're asking about the corks on like a straight or cup mute.. In a pinch I've used the little nylon dots that are used for door bumper on kitchen cabinet doors (to keep them from slamming-door on frame).. Lined them up in a row where the cork used to be. Find them at Lowe's, Home Depot, etc.
Then moldable glue sticks, Sugru. I'm not sure about the long term affect on silver or lacquer.. this works ok.. still think I prefer replacement corks from Jo-Ral. _________________ Freelance Performer/Educator
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 12664 Location: Gardena, Ca
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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trumpethead wrote: | Someone suggested a while ago using bicycle tube as the 'cork'.
Since I've done this, I'd NEVER go back to using cork.
The mutes just stay in without any other help. |
Are you recommending it for harmon mutes? If not how do you cut it into strips to put on a straight mute? |
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JonathanM Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 2018 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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I need the info on how to cut and place the bicycle inner tube on the mute. What one uses the inner tube on probably depends what size mute and what size trumpet bell one is using. I've got a practice mute I need to use the inner tube on. I'm hoping Someone will explain how to cut and glue it... Is there a Youtube video to help? I'm hoping... _________________ Jonathan Milam
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ayryq Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Feb 2019 Posts: 354 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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I buy the corks, usually Jo-Ral I think. The best glue I've found is "Shoe Goo." One container will do all your mutes, and the mutes of everyone you know, for the rest of your life, plus fix your shoes if you should need to.
Here's an amazon link, but my local hardware store stocks it:
https://smile.amazon.com/Repair-Adhesive-Fixing-Shoes-3-7-Ounce/dp/B002L9AL84/ _________________ Yamaha YTR6345HGS Bb
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 12664 Location: Gardena, Ca
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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JonathanM wrote: | I need the info on how to cut and place the bicycle inner tube on the mute. What one uses the inner tube on probably depends what size mute and what size trumpet bell one is using. I've got a practice mute I need to use the inner tube on. I'm hoping Someone will explain how to cut and glue it... Is there a Youtube video to help? I'm hoping... |
Use google to search trumpetherald. You can limit the search by adding site:trumpetherald to the search terms. This works much better than the built in search.
Tim Wendt, user trpthrld, posted the original suggestion if my memory is correct.
Here is the post I remember. |
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Crazy Finn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 8335 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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trumpethead wrote: | Someone suggested a while ago using bicycle tube as the 'cork'.
Since I've done this, I'd NEVER go back to using cork.
The mutes just stay in without any other help. |
Thanks but this won't work for a cup or straight mute.
zaferis wrote: | I think you're asking about the corks on like a straight or cup mute.. |
That is precisely what I'm asking. The long or short pieces of cork. Not for a Harmon mute, but a straight or a cup.
Thanks for those of you who have chimed in, please continue... _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
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Tpt_Guy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 1102 Location: Sacramento, Ca
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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I've found this works well:
https://www.amazon.com/MACs-Auto-Parts-49-61421-Material/dp/B071LJT2NQ
And it can be cut to any dimension.
And I use Weldwood as an adhesive. Takes time to finish gassing off, but once cured it's rock solid. _________________ -Tom Hall-
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ayryq Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Feb 2019 Posts: 354 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Good idea; my local hardware store sells small sheets of cork for gasket-making. It's pretty thin, but then I often wind up spending loads of time filing down the Jo-Ral corks anyhow. _________________ Yamaha YTR6345HGS Bb
Bach "Philly" C
Bach 239 Eb/D
DEG Signature 2000 Bb/A picc
Yamaha YTR-9835 Bb/A picc
Yamaha Bobby Shew flugel
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AJCarter Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 1280 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:28 am Post subject: |
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I've had a good process for replacing them once you have your desired cork that was passed to me from Chris Legaux at TrumCor. This will be a little general as I don't have the sheet with me at the moment, but I can type it out for you later if you'd like.
1.) clean area with mineral spirits or some kind of paint thinner.
2.) lightly score the area. For metal, a little more may be needed.
3.) apply a thin layer of contact cement to the area AND to the cork itself. The cork might need to two layers as it is an absorbent material.
4.) Press on and let cure.
Read the directions for the contact cement of your choice, but I've had NO issues with corks falling off after using this method and I've tried it on a few different mutes. _________________ (List horns here) |
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pinstriper Veteran Member
Joined: 25 Sep 2013 Posts: 340 Location: Portlandia, OR
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:32 am Post subject: |
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There is sheet cork and foam available in a variety of thickness at most (and certainly all the large) craft and fabric stores. Including neoprene which does super for harmon mutes. You can also cannibalize an old mouse pad for this material. _________________ ~'77 DEG Dynasty II Soprano Bugle in G
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Crazy Finn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 8335 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Bump!
NOTE: Post is regarding corks for mutes that are NOT Harmon style mutes. _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
Selmer Radial Bb Trumpet
Yamaha 6335S Bb Trumpet
Besson 709 Bb Trumpet
Bach 184L Bb Cornet
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